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John c
05-15-2011, 11:43 AM
This last season I typically just mixed all my sap together and boiled it down, however I did manage to make a batch from from only red maple sap and a friend of mine who is highly sensitive to all other pure maple syrup was very excited to learn that he muscle tested very strong for the syrup made from red maple! (Muscle testing is a holistic approach to testing for allergies.)
Does anybody know if there is really any medical or scientific truth to my friends discovery or is there anybody else out there that found this to be true?

Bucket Head
05-15-2011, 12:36 PM
No, never heard of that before.

All I can say is the holistic folk's money is just as green as everyone else's. Maybe you've found a new market.

Steve

argohauler
05-15-2011, 01:04 PM
So the strong muscle testing was a good thing? So he's not as allergic to the red maples?

John c
05-15-2011, 01:31 PM
So the strong muscle testing was a good thing? So he's not as allergic to the red maples?

Yes, that's right, he is not allergic to the syrup I made from red maples!

BryanEx
05-15-2011, 02:10 PM
I have difficulty following how that works. Syrup, whether made from sugar maple or red maple, would have the same composition as a finished product. What typically varies is the original sugar content of the sap and the length of the season between maple species.

John c
05-15-2011, 03:58 PM
I have difficulty following how that works. Syrup, whether made from sugar maple or red maple, would have the same composition as a finished product. What typically varies is the original sugar content of the sap and the length of the season between maple species.

I don't really understand it either, that's why I'm asking if anybody knew anything about it. (medical or scientific?)

Flat Lander Sugaring
05-15-2011, 04:15 PM
I'm not sure of syrup but for most foods in a raw form they hold a specific organic make up of proteins and in raw form a person can be allergic to them like me. Once you cook that food the proteins are changed and the person can be no longer allergic to it.
I'm allergic to every thing in the state of VT plus dogs and cats, thank god not syrup but the pollen from a maple tree does wonders on me

like right now just ate a salad my ears and back of throat are itching, not sure what in the salad is doing it, but had a salad the other day and I was fine. If I had cooked it all then made a salad no problem.

CBOYER
05-16-2011, 02:11 PM
Cooked the salad :razz: thats will be Vt be allergic of you:lol:

maplekid
05-16-2011, 05:17 PM
advertise as hypo allergenic!!! lol

John c
05-16-2011, 06:22 PM
advertise as hypo allergenic!!! lol

Yeah that would be great if there was some absolute medical/scientific truth to this!
I'm sure that it must be the opposite for some people though.

802maple
05-16-2011, 08:12 PM
I'm not sure of syrup but for most foods in a raw form they hold a specific organic make up of proteins and in raw form a person can be allergic to them like me. Once you cook that food the proteins are changed and the person can be no longer allergic to it.
I'm allergic to every thing in the state of VT plus dogs and cats, thank god not syrup but the pollen from a maple tree does wonders on me

like right now just ate a salad my ears and back of throat are itching, not sure what in the salad is doing it, but had a salad the other day and I was fine. If I had cooked it all then made a salad no problem.

Did you make your salad dressing with non RO'd syrup? LOL

Brent
05-17-2011, 09:08 PM
My guess is that he was more likely allergic to the defoamer in whatever he tried before. Maybe he got a batch with lard, nut oils, bacon fat or whatever. Unless maybe Tim can contribute something more scientific, I doubt it was the difference in the trees.

John c
05-18-2011, 03:46 PM
My guess is that he was more likely allergic to the defoamer in whatever he tried before. Maybe he got a batch with lard, nut oils, bacon fat or whatever. Unless maybe Tim can contribute something more scientific, I doubt it was the difference in the trees.

Very good thought since I don't use defoamer or anything as "defoamer"!

Flat Lander Sugaring
05-19-2011, 06:38 AM
Did you make your salad dressing with non RO'd syrup? LOL

no it was RO'd from some place North of me:D lack of maple flavor made my mouth itch:lol::lol:

mike z
05-19-2011, 01:27 PM
I say make some from only sugars next year and have him try that. Being allergic to maple syrup sounds like a real curse. Your processing technique is likely the key here, not the tree type.