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argohauler
04-11-2011, 01:09 PM
I've got a lot of good tasting dark syrup this year and I've just about run out of Dark #3 grade stickers, so I called Atkinson's. Needed to call them about some Kent bottle caps I got from them that had no foil inside. Got that cleared up as there is a lip inside them that's supposed to seal the bottle. Anyways wanted to order some dark grade labels. Lady says we don't have them and that you're not allowed to bottle it. It's only for commercial use. I said there are people who love it and what happen's if an inspector comes along at the Farmer's Market and sees no grade label?
So I call Mary Jakeman to see if they have any in stock. I got them originally from them back in 94 when I first started and am now just getting them used up. She said she could order them. So I asked is it legal to bottle it. She said yes. She said they were $12 for a roll of 500 and were the rectangle shaped ones. She said what she would do if you don't need so many is make them up on your printer or a place that does printing and probably get them made cheaper as long as I have Canada Dark #3 on it, I'd be lawful.
So I guess I've got some more questions for OMAFRA.
argohauler
04-11-2011, 02:49 PM
Called OMAFRA's John Henderson from Brighton and he wasn't there, so I left a message.
My wife got looking for regulations and found some stuff.
Legislation:
Maple Products are legislated under Regulation 386 of the Farm Products Grades and Sales Act.
In addition, please note that this link is based on a search critera.
Frequently asked questions:
Q 1. What are the labelling requirements for maple products?
A 1. The labelling requirements are outlined in Section 5, of Regulation 386.
[B]Farm Products Grades and Sales Act
Loi sur le classement et la vente des produits agricoles
R.R.O. 1990, REGULATION 386
MAPLE PRODUCTS
Consolidation Period: From January 15, 2009 to the e-Laws currency date.
Last amendment: O. Reg. 4/09.
This Regulation is made in English only.
1. In this Regulation,
“caramel, buddy or sappy taste” means a bitter flavour characteristic of maple syrup produced from sap that flows after the buds of the tree have commenced to open;
“inspection” means inspection by an inspector appointed under the Act and “inspected” has a corresponding meaning;
“maple product” means any product prepared directly or indirectly from maple sap;
“maple product substitute” means a product other than a pure maple product manufactured or derived in whole or in part from a farm product and prepared for the same uses as a maple product and resembling a maple product in appearance. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 1.
2. Maple products and maple product substitutes are designated as farm products. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 2.
3. This Regulation does not apply to maple products that are in bulk containers and that are in the process of being transported for further packaging. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 3.
3.1 Revoked: O. Reg. 4/09, s. 1.
4. No person shall pack, transport, ship, advertise, sell, offer for sale or have in possession for sale any maple product unless,
(a) the maple product has been graded in accordance with the Act and this Regulation;
(b) the maple product has been packed and marked in accordance with the Act and this Regulation; and
(c) where the maple product has been transported into Ontario and has been repacked in Ontario, the container containing the maple product is marked to indicate the country of origin and all other provisions of this Regulation have been complied with. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 4.
5. No person shall pack, transport, ship, advertise, sell, offer for sale or have in possession for sale any maple product unless the container containing the maple product has marked thereon,
(a) the name of the maple product;
(b) the amount of maple product in the container measured,
(i) in volume units for maple syrup, and
(ii) in weight units for other maple products;
(c) the grade and colour class of the maple syrup; and
(d) the name and address of the person who packed the maple product. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 5.
6. No person shall pack, transport, ship, advertise, sell, offer for sale or have in possession for sale any maple product in a container that has been previously marked unless all markings thereon that do not comply with this Regulation are completely removed or obliterated. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 6.
argohauler
04-11-2011, 02:58 PM
7. No person shall misrepresent the grade, count, weight, measure, mark or marking, ownership or place of origin of any maple product. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 7.
7.1 (1) Maple syrup shall be packed in containers whose capacity,
(a) does not exceed 125 millilitres;
(b) is equal to,
(i) 250 millilitres,
(ii) 375 millilitres,
(iii) 500 millilitres,
(iv) 540 millilitres,
(v) 750 millilitres,
(vi) 1 litre,
(vii) 1.5 litres,
(viii) any multiple of 1 litre.
(2) Maple syrup containers with a capacity of five litres or less shall be new.
(3) Maple syrup containers shall be filled to at least 90 per cent of their capacity and be securely closed by means of a screw cap, friction lid or hermetically sealed lid, bung or other closure device. O. Reg. 604/92, s. 1.
8. (1) In this section,
“principal display panel” means,
(a) in the case of a container mounted on a display card, the part of the label applied to the principal display surface of the container or to the side of the display card that is displayed or visible under normal or customary conditions of sale or use, or to both such parts of the container and the display card,
(b) in the case of an ornamental container, the part of the label applied to the bottom of the container, to the principal display surface or to a tag attached to the container, and
(c) in the case of all other containers, the part of the label applied to the principal display surface;
“principal display surface” means,
(a) in the case of a container that has a side or surface that is displayed or visible under normal or customary conditions of sale or use, the total area of the side or surface excluding the top, if any,
(b) in the case of a container that has a lid that is the part of the container displayed or visible under normal or customary conditions of sale or use, the total area of the top surface of the lid,
(c) in the case of a container that does not have a particular side or surface that is displayed or visible under normal or customary conditions of sale or use, any 40 per cent of the total surface area of the container, excluding the top and bottom, if any, if such 40 per cent can be displayed under normal or customary conditions of sale or use.
(2) No person shall make a misleading claim with respect to a maple product substitute, either orally, or by word or design in an advertisement or on a container in which a maple product substitute is contained.
(3) Containers containing a maple product substitute shall bear labels giving a complete list of the product’s ingredients that lists, in decreasing order, the proportion of the product each ingredient comprises.
(4) The letters of the word “maple” appearing in a list of ingredients referred to in subsection (3) shall be of the same size, colour and type as the letters of the other words in the list.
(5) If one of the ingredients of a maple product substitute is a maple product, the word “maple” shall only appear in the list of ingredients referred to in subsection (3) or in a statement of percentage that gives, as a percentage of the total volume of the product, the amount of maple product the maple product substitute contains.
(6) If one of the ingredients of a maple product substitute is a maple product, the maple product shall constitute not less than 15 per cent of the total volume of the maple product substitute.
(7) The word “pure” shall not be used in a statement of percentage appearing on the label of a maple product substitute containing a maple product.
(8) A statement of percentage shall,
(a) be located on the principal display panel;
(b) be formed of letters of the same size, colour and type set against a similar background;
(c) have letters no larger than the brand name of the product and no smaller than the heights set out in the Table.
TABLE
Area of Principal Display Surface
Height of Letters in Millimetres
1.
Not more than 32 square centimetres
1.6
2.
More than 32 square centimetres, but not more than 258 square centimetres
3.2
3.
More than 258 square centimetres, but not more than 645 square centimetres
6.4
4.
More than 645 square centimetres, but not more than 25.8 square decimetres
9.5
5.
More than 25.8 square decimetres
12.7
(9) If maple trees, maple leaves or any scene depicting or implying maple syrup is on the principal display panel of a container, the panel shall have a clearly visible statement of percentage.
(10) If a maple product substitute contains no maple product, no person shall use the word “maple”, except in the expressions “artificially maple flavoured” or “artificial maple flavouring” on any container in which the maple product substitute is contained. O. Reg. 604/92, s.2.
8.1 An advertisement for maple syrup that quotes a price shall state the grade and volume of the maple syrup as prominently as the price. O. Reg. 604/92, s. 2.
9. Where an inspector detains any lot of maple product or maple product containers or maple product substitute or maple product substitute containers, the inspector may attach thereto a numbered detention tag and no person shall sell, offer for sale, move or allow or cause to be sold, offered for sale or moved the maple product or maple product containers or maple product substitute or maple product substitute containers or remove the detention tag without the written authority of an inspector. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 9.
10. Where an inspector is satisfied that any maple product or maple product container or maple product substitute or maple product substitute container that has been placed under detention, complies with the Act and this Regulation, the inspector may release the maple product or maple product container or maple product substitute or maple product substitute container by issuing a detention release. R.R.O. 1990, Reg.386, s. 10.
11. (1) Every person who requires an inspection of a maple product shall apply to the nearest inspector or to the Director.
(2) Inspection shall be made as nearly as is practicable in the order in which applications are received. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 11.
12. (1) No person shall sell or offer for sale a maple product that,
(a) is not produced by the concentration of maple sap or by the solution of maple sugar in water;
(b) is not clean, wholesome, free from objectionable flavours and fit for human consumption; and
(c) is not free from any defect or deterioration affecting its edibility, appearance or shipping quality.
(2) No person shall sell or offer for sale,
(a) maple syrup that does not have a minimum soluble solids content of 66 per cent as determined by a refractometer at 20°C; or
(b) maple sugar that contains more than 10 per cent moisture. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 12.
13. (1) The grades for maple syrup are as follows:
1. Canada No. 1, consisting of maple syrup that,
i. is free from fermentation,
ii. is uniform in colour and free from cloudiness or turbidity,
iii. is Extra Light, Light or Medium in colour class, and
iv. has a maple flavour characteristic of its colour class and is free from any objectionable odour or taste.
2. Canada No. 2, consisting of maple syrup that,
i. is free from fermentation,
ii. is uniform in colour and free from any cloudiness or turbidity,
iii. is Amber in colour class, and
iv. has a maple flavour characteristic of its colour class and is free from any objectionable odour or taste.
3. Canada No. 3, consisting of maple syrup that has a characteristic maple flavour and is free from any objectionable odour or taste other than a trace of caramel, buddy or sappy taste.
4. Ontario Amber, consisting of maple syrup that,
i. is free from fermentation,
ii. is uniform in colour and free from any cloudiness or turbidity,
iii. is Amber in colour class, and
iv. has a maple flavour characteristic of its colour class and is free from any objectionable odour or taste.
(2) Maple syrup that is graded Ontario Amber shall only be sold or offered for sale at the producer’s farm gate. O. Reg. 604/92, s. 3.
14. The colour classes for maple syrup are as follows:
1. Extra Light, consisting of maple syrup having a percentage of light transmission not less than 75.0.
2. Light, consisting of maple syrup having a percentage of light transmission less than 75.0 but not less than 60.5.
3. Medium, consisting of maple syrup having a percentage of light transmission less than 60.5 but not less than 44.0.
4. Amber, consisting of maple syrup having a percentage of light transmission less than 44.0 but not less than 27.0.
5. Dark, consisting of maple syrup having a percentage of light transmission less than 27.0. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 14.
15. The determination of the light transmission of maple syrup shall be made optically by means of,
(a) a spectrophotometer using matched square optical cells having a 10 mm light path at a wavelength of 560 mm, the colour values being expressed in per cent of light transmission as compared to A.R. Glycerol fixed at 100 per cent transmission; or
(b) a visual glass comparator, the optical specifications of which correspond as closely as possible to the specifications determined by the method described in clause (a). R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 386, s. 15.[/B]Back to top
So what we get from this is that it appears to be legal.
I never thought it mattered how dark it was, as long as it had good flavour, and was labeled correctly.
I just bought #3 dark labels at Webers in Heidelberg last week. A roll of 250 for $4.75.
Nick
argohauler
04-12-2011, 08:25 AM
I never thought it mattered how dark it was, as long as it had good flavour, and was labeled correctly.
I just bought #3 dark labels at Webers in Heidelberg last week. A roll of 250 for $4.75.
Nick
Thanks for that nas. Never been to Weber's, but I've been to Reist Farm Supply east of Elmira.
Still awaiting a phone call back from OMAFRA.
Yellzee
04-12-2011, 08:38 AM
Argo, question from your other thread.. haven't had time to check it out but I suspect we're reading the same reg but different revisions...
here is what I saw, I cut this out a bit but you can read the whole section 5 on line...
Canada department of justice website
Maple Products Regulations (C.R.C., c. 289)
5.
(2) Maple syrup shall be graded in
(a) a registered establishment; or
(b) any place, where it is graded by or on behalf of the operator of a registered maple syrup shipper establishment.
SOR/81-577, s. 2; SOR/86-418, s. 1; SOR/89-267, s. 2; SOR/91-371, s. 2.
5.1 (1) Subject to subsection (2), no person other than a grader shall grade maple syrup.(2) Maple syrup may be graded by the operator or an employee of a registered establishment if the grading is carried out under the supervision of a grader.
Yellzee
04-12-2011, 08:53 AM
I take the previous comment back... looks like there are 2 regs, that are not quite the same... and maybe someone could tell me which one we have to follow (or maybe it's both)
Maybe the 289 is just if you want to import/export?
CBOYER
04-12-2011, 01:01 PM
check if it is only for bulk production..
Yellzee
04-12-2011, 02:13 PM
looks like the 289 is for international or interprovincial, so doesn't apply to sales within Ontario
from the header of the article
Regulations Establishing National Standards for and Regulating International and Interprovincial Trade in Maple Products
My bad for getting off track here.
argohauler
04-12-2011, 10:18 PM
John Henderson from OMAFRA called back and left a message today.
It is LEGAL to bottle. It is also legal he said to put dark #3 on any other grade if it is cloudy.
Why would Atkinson's say that it wasn't?
BryanEx
04-13-2011, 09:34 PM
Why would Atkinson's say that it wasn't?
Not sure... I'll shot them an email and ask about #3 labels as well to see if I get the same answer. I wouldn't mind having a matching set of grade labels instead of something different for dark.
- Bryan
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