1 ton truck sap capicity

[Brian Ryther]

Those of you with 1 ton trucks. How much sap do you carry?

[Bucket Head]

I carry 300 gallons when my tank is full and the truck has no problem at all with it. I could put a lot more on if I had a larger tank. However, I should add that I have quite a stack of leaf springs in the back. I have seen other one ton's that did not have the spring set-up that mine has. So I'm doubting that those trucks would do as well as mine does with the weight. When the tank is full, the rear of the truck sets just below "level". The helper/overload springs are nowhere near the frame mounted stops.

Steve

[Dave Y]

Brian,
I have a 1 ton dump and I have a 550gal tank in it and it does fine. I could probably haul more but it is older than a lot of the members on this site.

I do have Dodge 2500 V10 and I have a 425 on it and I know it will haul more.

[Rhino]

I also haul 550 gal. on my 1 ton dually. Also pull a trailer behind it. All total i haul 1200 gal. at a time and has no problems.

[maplecrest]

2009 gmc duromax with allison trans. 1000 gallon in poly tank

[Wardner in Tewksbury]

I've seen dual tire F-350's loaded with 14,000 lbs of Black Beauty sandblasting grit. I have seen roofers haul humungous amounts of old roofing shingles in 12' bodies on 1 tons. Those loads would be the equivalent of 1000 gallons of sap.

I have never put more than 8000 lbs on my Dodge Cummins 4x4 1 ton dump and never will. I'm not looking for trouble and can't afford a major malfunction.

One should also bear in mind that road travel at a conservative speed is less stressful than off-road sap gathering on bumpy trails.

[tuckermtn]

single rear wheel regular body f-350 diesel with a 425 gal pickup tank. we are borrowing a dual wheel dump 1 ton dodge this season and are looking for either two 275 totes or one 550 poly.

[maple flats]

These are all interesting, but what capacities are shown for MGVW and what is unloaded weight, as far as the specs on the door frame tag? In other words, max legal weight in LBS?

[Wardner in Tewksbury]

These are all interesting, but what capacities are shown for MGVW and what is unloaded weight, as far as the specs on the door frame tag? In other words, max legal weight in LBS?

My Dodge Diesel 4x4 1 ton dump truck weighs 8800 lbs empty. I think the sticker is around 11,000 for maximum GVW but it has been a long time since I have looked at it. That leaves about one ton for the load or about 300 gallons.

That, of course, is ridiculous. Those ratings are for legal purposes and are conservative to protect the mfg. They also protect the motoring public from grossly overloaded trucks. An overloaded truck is defenseless in a court of law when liabilities are being assigned. If one is trucking sap around the bush or carefully making short trips on public roads, most haulers consider the risk to be minimal and will "overload" if the DOT enforcement is lax. Local cops don't know jack about trucks unless they are in a jurisdiction with a large metal recycler(scrap yard) or elevator. I think most cops will give alot of leeway when it comes to agricultural products even if they suspect overloads.

For many years most roll-back car carriers were 1 tons. At empty weight, they were near max GVW but had no problem hauling cars and light trucks. Those rigs are all off the road now having been replaced with heavier truck chassis. The cops were trained to pull them over. It was an easy ticket.

I forgot to mention in my previous post about a F-250 pickup that was heaped with cobblestones to the point where one more would have rolled off in a moderate turn. I don't know how he made out but I suspect that wasn't his first load.

[Brian Ryther]

I bought a 06 3500 Dodge. I put a #800 stake body on it. I want to put a 725 poly leg tank on it and dont want to find out that 725 is too much and have to cary partial loads wich is much worse than a full load due to the sloshing. As far as dot is concerned I can regester it for whatever # I want to. If Maplecrest can put 1000 gal in a gmc then I think the Dodge will be just fine.

[Smith's Maple]

I am running a 91 dodge 3/4 ton. I haul a 550 gallon tank. Also hauled 7 loads of stone over 3 tons this summer. Single wheel 8 ply tires max air pressure 80 psi.

[danno]

I would think so Brian. I used to carry two 275 gal totes in my 1/2 ton and I hardly knew it was there.

[Grade "A"]

These are all interesting, but what capacities are shown for MGVW and what is unloaded weight, as far as the specs on the door frame tag? In other words, max legal weight in LBS?

Most 1 tons fall in the class 3 truck classification (a gvwr of 10,001 to 14,000 lbs). The gvwr will be different one truck to another based on many things like duel or single rear wheel, tire size, # of helper springs, rear end size, ext. The unladen weight can be from about 6,000 lbs (reg. cab, 6' box, single rear wheel, gas job, man. trans) to 11,000 lbs (10' dump body, duely, diesel, auto trans). Long story short not all 1 tons are created equal.

[WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER]

Most trucks that size should have connection for trailer brakes. Best thing is pull a trailer behind it if you are going to haul a big load. Trailer will be much easier to get into vs back of truck and will save a lot of wear and tear on a truck. Don't need a very big trailer to be able to haul 1,000 lbs of sap on it.

[Southtowns27]

I have a '96 Dodge Ext Cab 3500 dually 4x4 Cummins flatbed. It weighs 8900 lbs and the GVW (according to the sticker on the door post) is 14000. So, my "1 ton" truck can carry almost 2 tons according to the sticker, but it'll do a lot more than that
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[Flat47]

Those old designators for trucks ("half-ton," "three-quarter ton," etc.) are meaningless today. They originated way back when the pick-up truck did. You have GOT to go by the GVW as stated by the manufacturer with regard to the curb weight (as it sits) plus you and your tools and stuff. DO NOT disregard these weights.

For example: lots of 3/4-ton trucks have a GVW of 9,200 lbs, and a curb weight of 5,900 lbs (or so), giving a payload of 3,300 lbs or so. That means you COULD haul 412 gallons (minus the weight of the tank, pump, etc.).

Keep in mind that liquid is a "live" load, meaning it acts and reacts to motion. It sloshes and can cause the vehicle to surge forwad or tip to the side.

Don't put everyones life at risk and run an overloaded truck. Please.

[kiegscustoms]

If it fits it goes. 2002 duramax 3500 dually I've had 7500 - 8000 in the bed of wood and run 2 275 gal tanks every spring no prob. Flat 47- very true, running sap (live load) is a lot different than running firewood. Just be mindful and don't do anything stupid and most of all - if you are not comfortable with the load do not haul it!

[maplwrks]

If it is a Dodge---125 gallons MAX!!!!! I run a 550 in my 3/4 ton, and it handles it nicely. I would think you would be OK with a 725--maybe even a 1000 gallon tank.

[Grade "A"]

The other thing to think about is not how much you can haul but how much you can stop. Also I'm sure all of you know but it needs to be said is that don't get a tank bigger than you plan on hauling. A truck carring 750 gals of sap in a 750 gal tank will stop better than one carring 750 gals of sap in a 1000 gal tank.

[Slatebelt*Pa*Tapper]

1 gallon of water weighs roughly 8.33 lbs.. etc

5 gals= 41.65 lbs..

20 gals= 166.6 lbs

55 gals= 458.15 lbs

100 gals= 833.5 lbs

250 gals= 2,082.5 lbs

500 gals= 4,165 lbs

750 gals= 6247.5 lbs

1000 gals= 8,330 lbs


1 short (or net) ton = 2000 pounds (US)

1 tonne (i.e., a metric ton) = 2204.6 pounds

exempt farm trucks/equipment may have liabilities to??
be careful, there are alot of good lawyers listed on the net.. :emb:

[kiegscustoms]

100% Agree with Grade A. Running a cage tank and a half last year felt like I was on the ferry. Nice chart Slatebelt PA!

[Flat47]

100% Agree with Grade A. Running a cage tank and a half last year felt like I was on the ferry. Nice chart Statebelt PA!

Unbaffled tanks will do just that. The liquid keeps sloshing and keeps moving the vehicle. I've seen trucks rock back and forth for a good 5 minutes after being parked and the driver heads in for coffee. That's yet another reason to size your tank based on your truck's GVW.

[Leadft]

I use a 7000GVW trailer behind a 05' 2500HD DURAMAX. I had 2 275GL totes on it last year... I need to see if I can put the third one on there and be comfortable hauling it all...

Thanks for the Info...

1 gallon of water weighs roughly 8.33 lbs.. etc

5 gals= 41.65 lbs..

20 gals= 166.6 lbs

55 gals= 458.15 lbs

100 gals= 833.5 lbs

250 gals= 2,082.5 lbs

500 gals= 4,165 lbs

750 gals= 6247.5 lbs

1000 gals= 8,330 lbs


1 short (or net) ton = 2000 pounds (US)

1 tonne (i.e., a metric ton) = 2204.6 pounds

exempt farm trucks/equipment may have liabilities to??
be careful, there are alot of good lawyers listed on the net.. :emb:[/QUOTE]